Do Pastors Need More Education To Leave Vocational Ministry for Corporate Jobs? Debunking the “More Education” Myth

Jan 15, 2026

Read Time: 4 minutes

Written By:

Written By:

Written By:

Todd Linder

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Founder & Head Coach

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Overview


Welcome to the Ministry To Marketplace Minute! Today I’m busting a big myth. You need more education to get a job you’ll enjoy that will allow your pastor career change to support your family. I break it down below, so let’s dive in.


Today's Ministry To Marketplace Minute:

  • Mindset Shift: Pastor career changes don’t require more education.

  • Strategy Shift: Ministry to marketplace is about framing functions.

  • Do This Right Now: The first thing you need to do to win in your ministry job change.

  • Who Will Hire Me?: 5 ministry friendly organizations with jobs for ex-pastors.

🧠 MINDSET SHIFT: Pastor career changes don’t require more education.


The education and experience you need aren’t what you were sold. 


Unlike most jobs, ministry jobs (especially pastors) require degrees. You need an MDiv or ThM to even be considered for a pastoral position. Then, to advance in leadership, you need some sort of doctorate.


In the church world, education isn’t just a sign that you “know stuff,” it is a signal of commitment.


But that just isn’t what employers are looking for in the marketplace.


Employers are looking for people who can solve their problems.


If your dishwasher is broken, you don’t care if the repair person went to trade school to fix dishwashers. You care if they have fixed dishwashers before and can do it again for you.


Does a company have a people retention problem? It doesn’t matter if you have your SHRM or not if you’ve done it before and can show that you can do it again.


Does a company have a lead generation problem? It doesn’t matter if you have a marketing degree or not. It matters if you know how to get them more leads and have done that before.

♟️ STRATEGY SHIFT: Ministry to marketplace is about framing functions.


Experience matters more than education. A lot more.


The question you shouldn’t be asking isn’t, “What degrees or certifications do I need to be considered for this job?”


The question should be, “What experience and real world education do I have that functionally qualify me for this job?” 


In short, do you know how to do the core parts of the job or not, and have you already achieved the results the company is looking for?


Functional Experience and Education


More and more business leaders recognize proven experience more than education. Elon Musk (love him or hate him), Tim Cook, and the founder of 1800-Got-Junk? all agree.


College is nice, but when it comes to a job you could learn how to do on YouTube or in your mom’s basement, or just from doing it in another organization - the degrees matter less and less.


Sure, a doctor, lawyer - do the degree. Marketing, sales, operations. That’s hands-on stuff.


What Do I Mean By Functions


When I say “functional experience,” here’s what I mean.


There are about 192 functions that are common across all jobs in the U.S.


Yes, including all ministry jobs.


And there is a lot of overlap between these jobs. Yes, including ministry jobs.


So that means that functionally, you have likely done multiple different jobs in the corporate environment in your ministry career, but the functions might have been arranged differently. That can make looking for job types confusing.


As a worship pastor, you might be 

  • Responsible for mentoring younger worship leaders

  • Choosing set lists

  • Making sure that the right things are on stage, the right people are at rehearsals, and everyone has the right equipment. 

  • On top of that, you probably interviewed band members.


Functionally, those responsibilities could show up in this way:

  • Mentorship exists in training or management jobs

  • Choosing set lists exists in event planning or office management jobs

  • Right things, right people, and right equipment exist in project management and logistics jobs

  • Interviewing exists in talent acquisition and recruiter jobs


So really, functionally, you have done major aspects of these jobs. You just have to dissect a little bit.


We have our Career Compass assessment, which actually does this for you and gives a list of job titles that fit your experience, skills and wiring in the Interview Accelerator.


What About Certifications?


This is a tricky one. Especially when it comes to certifications like the SHRM, PMP, or Scrum/Agile. 


Many job descriptions will say, “qualifications preferred” and list these. Some might say, “required qualifications” and list some of these.


From spending time on the HR side, read what I’m about to say very carefully and take it to heart:


Job descriptions are a wish list, not a 100% requirement list
.


In the Interview Accelerator, we have a tool that scores resumes based on their alignment with job descriptions. 


We suggest 90% alignment to get an interview. And guess what?
Most of the time, that resume gets an interview! (There are some other factors which you can read about in this newsletter here: 15X Your Interview Chances After Leaving Vocational Ministry)


**So here’s the takeaway for certifications:**


If you can’t explain how your experience aligns without the certification, the certification won’t help you get the job.


It will be a colossal waste of time and money.


If you can explain the alignment of your experience really well to which you’re already getting deep into the interview process but not converting to final interviews, a certification can make you more competitive.

QUICK WINS

QUICK WINS

QUICK WINS

✅ DO THIS RIGHT NOW: The first thing you need to do to win in your ministry job change.

  1. Reset your mindset about education and focus on experience. 

  2. Answer the question, “For the job that I’m hoping to get, what have I already done that exists within that job?” and write it down.

  3. Begin to translate your experience so that the language you use to explain what you have done functionally makes sense to the hiring team.

🚀 FROM THE COACHING GROUP

Just wrapped up my first actual interview for a role at Chick-fil-A!... I’m feeling encouraged to get into an interview process at such a highly competitive company & fully believe getting to this point happened because of following the steps we’ve all come to know and love through Launch Point!

🤝 WHO WILL HIRE ME?: 5 ministry friendly organizations with jobs for ex-pastors.

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Rooting for you! 🚀

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Todd Linder

Founder and Head Coach // Connect with me on LinkedIn

Todd Linder

Founder and Head Coach // Connect with me on LinkedIn

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